OVERVIEW
FIELD NOTES
- "In my last role I led medical efforts in the development of a “continuous glucose monitoring device”
- "A highly fractured and disorganized market in the glucose monitoring space"
- "Pharma spent years detailing against checking sugar, that their drugs did not require testing"
- There are approximately 1.3 million Type I, and 2.5-3.0 million patients if you include Type II on multiple injections of insulin per day"
- The cost basis to compare CGM to is strip based testing, which is significantly cheaper
- Managed care limits testing to 30 strips per month, and there is some restrictions that are hold overs from fraud/waste/abuse problems of the past
- All the evidence for the use of CGM is for patients on multiple daily dosing of insulin
- The larger opportunity in Type II is "probably never going to come to fruition"
- No evidence that CGM improves the outcome vs strips
- The analysis is complicated by multiple factors including patient compliance on diet, exercise, and medication targets
- There is utility for glucose testing in helping adjust a patient drug regimen, but continuous monitoring is not necessary, but it may help
- Only 10% of patients are cared for by a specialist, the more likely site of care for a patient to be on CGM
- There is "no doubt" about the value of HbA1C; more area under the curve, the longer patients has high sugar, the worse the patient outcomes
- "A couple of failed studies, not a failed hypothesis"
- The analysis of those studies is flawed
- Lower A1C leads to lower events, lower mortality and morbidity
- ACCORD study in June 2008 complicated the hypothesis
- Does CGM help lower A1C? That is the question that needs to be answered
- People are recently coming back to A1C in the literature
- But does CGM help control A1C? "That is a high hurdle and a very large study to prove" that CGM will help control A1C
- CGM is restricted to insulin intensive regimens, but intermittent testing may be part of the solution longer term for broader patient population
- The study that could show a patient benefit from CGM would be very large, and the signal would likely get "lost in the noise" given the regimen variation and patient compliance issues
- Medications are adjusted to impact A1C and CGM can't help you, although it may change behavior
- Use of CGM "comes down to patient preference"
- Alarm fatigue, too much information, patients balance the burden of the information and the benefits
- The "genius" of Libre is they re-purposed the sensor, built a new communication unit, and the patient swipes for an update
- The patient is not "drowning in data", ABT simplified the device
- Simple is better, and making the right decision is best
- Fraud was a big negative in the past and led to current restrictions for strip based testing
- CGM may have a role in helping a physician conduct a profile for intermittent data on M/W/F fasting, meal time, bedtime measures
- There is "no consistent voice to help the payors to best use the tools available"
- "Libre 2 does not change anything"
- "alarm fatigue" is a significant issue
- The market strategy has been that "anyone on insulin should be on a pump" and "anyone on a pump should use CGM" but only 50% of pump users (Medtronic) use CGM
- Eventual market penetration at 60% for type I + type II insulin intensive
- Reasons for use are 1) prevent hypoglycemia 2) control A1C 3) improve the patient quality of life
- "Closed loop belongs in research skunk works and with the KOLs, it is mostly noise and does not address the top three issues why patients use CGM"
- I have not heard about patients "hacking the devices" to extend use and lower cost
Thomas Tobin
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Emily Evans
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