• Bull.




The guest commentary below was written by Jesse Felder of The Felder Report. This piece does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Hedgeye.

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“To achieve superior investment results, you have to hold nonconsensus views regarding value, and they have to be accurate.”
- Howard Marks, The Most Important Thing

A question investors should be in the habit of asking is, ‘What does the stock price currently discount?’ Understanding what is already priced in and what is not yet priced in is key to the investing process and the history of Apple’s share price over the past decade is a good representation of how this works.

Back in 2013, when Apple traded at just 5-times free cash flow (see: Mr. Market Is Not Impressed With Apple) the consensus was, in the wake of Steve Jobs’ passing, the company could no longer innovate.

Worse than that, the stock price appeared to discount worsening profitability and a persistent loss of smartphone market share to Samsung.

Fast forward nearly a decade and, at 35-times free cash flow, investors now believe that, not only will Apple dominate smartphone sales and services for the foreseeable future, it will also come to dominate autonomous driving and even the metaverse in the years to come.

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So what was priced into Apple shares back in 2013 was a very pessimistic view of the company’s future. Because this view turned out to be far too bearish, purchases made at that time to be very profitable for investors holding nonconsensus bullish views regarding the company’s value.

Today, however, Apple shares have priced in a heroically optimistic view of the company’s future.

Even if it comes to pass, investors may not benefit much as the shares have likely already discounted it. Should these hopeful projections prove too hopeful, however, the nonconsensus bearish view regarding the company’s value may prove prescient.


This is a Hedgeye Guest Contributor piece written by Jesse Felder and reposted from The Felder Report blog. Felder has been managing money for over 20 years. He began his professional career at Bear, Stearns & Co. and later co-founded a multi-billion-dollar hedge fund firm headquartered in Santa Monica, California. Today he lives in Bend, Oregon and publishes The Felder Report. This piece does not necessarily reflect the opinion of Hedgeye.